"A few days later those friends who were into their art would tell us they had a great night and that our band was good. We were shocked, nothing was finished and it was kind of where they were. All of a sudden we felt for the first time that we were at that ground level. We were doing what we wanted to do for the sake of doing it and not for any other reason. Dear Eskimo was about finishing pop songs and to make something really finished. I think we really do that with this band. It was the development that we went through that had a huge influence."

Perhaps after Dear Eskimo the duo had a lack of self-confidence?

"Yeah I lost a lot of confidence from the hassle and wind down," admits Katie.

"It's very personal," begins Jules. "Usually people listen to the music that's on the radio and they think about the songs that have just been written or performed and that the artistes are having a good time on the road or have rock and roll lifestyle but they don't tend to realise when we're getting knocked down, turned down, dropped or people not working with you that it can knock you for six. You can come away from it thinking that's it's not just one person that doesn't like you it's a whole company and the people who would be your friends are not answering the phones or responding anymore and you can start thinking that. It is soul destroying."

With the final outcome of Dear Eskimo creating negative feelings, would that mean that they wouldn't look to recreating the positive moments such as through re-releasing 'Patience'?

"I'm so sick of that song because of the hard time from Dear Eskimo," states Katie.

"Don't think we didn't like it. We really liked that song and we really liked that band," begins Jules. >>